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	<title>Comments on: Change.gov and Cluen: A Case Study in Privacy</title>
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		<title>By: Ravi</title>
		<link>http://ariwriter.com/changegov-and-cluen-a-case-study-in-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1814</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key piece probably is transparency with respect to the relationship between Cluen and Change.gov and what their agreement is about the data stored as a privacy concern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key piece probably is transparency with respect to the relationship between Cluen and Change.gov and what their agreement is about the data stored as a privacy concern.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Woodbridge</title>
		<link>http://ariwriter.com/changegov-and-cluen-a-case-study-in-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1772</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Woodbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have much to really add here but I don&#039;t understand why Cluen would need to store the data.  I wouldn&#039;t really mind sending all of the information to the employer but I would be hesitant to send it to a 3rd party. That being said I don&#039;t really think privacy exists anymore.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have much to really add here but I don&#8217;t understand why Cluen would need to store the data.  I wouldn&#8217;t really mind sending all of the information to the employer but I would be hesitant to send it to a 3rd party. That being said I don&#8217;t really think privacy exists anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Obama Online: More To Transition Transparency Than Meets the Eye &#124; by Ari Herzog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama Online: More To Transition Transparency Than Meets the Eye &#124; by Ari Herzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a case study on privacy between Change.gov and Cluen I wrote 48 hours ago, I ask again why personnel records of prospective managers and staff [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a case study on privacy between Change.gov and Cluen I wrote 48 hours ago, I ask again why personnel records of prospective managers and staff [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Herzog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ari Herzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, Marc, I did not go through the application process -- once I questioned the powering technology of Cluen. The difference with Monster, HotJobs, etc, is those sites merely host the forms and don&#039;t store data; the data is sent to the companies (or so I presume).

Thanks for the heads-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, Marc, I did not go through the application process &#8212; once I questioned the powering technology of Cluen. The difference with Monster, HotJobs, etc, is those sites merely host the forms and don&#8217;t store data; the data is sent to the companies (or so I presume).</p>
<p>Thanks for the heads-up.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea Baker</title>
		<link>http://ariwriter.com/changegov-and-cluen-a-case-study-in-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1712</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Marc there are two types of applications, ones for appointment which are more invasive and the other to be considered for other jobs within the administration. You might have been applying for the latter.

@Ari I think it depends on the position, some of them will hold their job, some will be replaced, others are being created. I didn&#039;t think to ask my friends at the White House if they have to reapply for their jobs, but some of them let me to believe they will be there after January 20th.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marc there are two types of applications, ones for appointment which are more invasive and the other to be considered for other jobs within the administration. You might have been applying for the latter.</p>
<p>@Ari I think it depends on the position, some of them will hold their job, some will be replaced, others are being created. I didn&#8217;t think to ask my friends at the White House if they have to reapply for their jobs, but some of them let me to believe they will be there after January 20th.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Andrea Baker´s last blog post..<a href="http://andrearbaker.com/2008/11/16/live-tonight-talking-government-20/">Live Tonight Talking Government 2.0</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Marc Dangeard</title>
		<link>http://ariwriter.com/changegov-and-cluen-a-case-study-in-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-1707</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Dangeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is strange, I also tried the application process and I did not see anything like the 63 question survey that you mention. Did you go through the same process or did you just echoed the NY Times article?
Or would they have a different process for different people?
The application process I saw was the typical job application process that you would get from any one of the services that do that, like a Yahoo Hot Jobs application or equivalent.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Marc Dangeard´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://bizcoach.blogspot.com/2008/11/after-his-essay-on-direct-economy.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is strange, I also tried the application process and I did not see anything like the 63 question survey that you mention. Did you go through the same process or did you just echoed the NY Times article?<br />
Or would they have a different process for different people?<br />
The application process I saw was the typical job application process that you would get from any one of the services that do that, like a Yahoo Hot Jobs application or equivalent.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Marc Dangeard´s last blog post..<a href="http://bizcoach.blogspot.com/2008/11/after-his-essay-on-direct-economy.html"></a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Not For Nothing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not For Nothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Being the Google of politics cuts both ways...&lt;/strong&gt;During her appearance at Providence&#039;s Central Congregational Church last night, NPR&#039;s Mara Liasson...</description>
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