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1 meznor (meznor) April 1, 2009 at 12:04 PM

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RT @ariherzog No joke: Wirtland Establishes Itself as Internet Country: [link to post] #gov20 [wow.]

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2 Philip John April 1, 2009 at 12:15 PM Twitter: @philipjohn

This was done a while ago by a guy called Danny Wallace who create a state called Awesome, though I have a feeling it was never accepted by the UN.

Feel free to dig around his site, you might find more info: http://www.citizensrequired.com

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3 rotkapchen (Paula Thornton) April 1, 2009 at 12:18 PM

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RT @ariherzog: Despite blogging on April Fool’s Day, it’s no joke: Wirtland Establishes Itself as Internet Country: [link to post] #gov20

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4 Alissa April 1, 2009 at 3:10 PM

A flipping beauty pageant??? Seriously!?

So if I want to “affect change in real world [sic]” to quote from their Statute, I can ask strangers for advice in lieu of medical care, lose money by purchasing gold above cost, and best of all, my neighbors will ask me for a picture so they can rank my hotness. Super.

5 Ari Herzog April 1, 2009 at 4:51 PM Twitter: @ariherzog

OK, so you entered the pageant and a Bulgarian beat you. I understand your fury!

6 Alissa April 1, 2009 at 5:25 PM

No joke, man. When scams and objectification are funny, I’ll be laffin’.

7 Cris April 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM Twitter: @wirtland

Alissa
I see your point. Indeed, the choice of options offered by W-land appears narrow. But the value of Witland’s concept is not in its current set of ready offers, but in the possibility to express members’ own ideas and ambitions. Example: W-land is not trying to sell you gold. W-land helps to realize someone’s idea to sell gold. We see Wirtland as an ever-growing framework of opportunities for people to do what they want, or to become whoever they want. If you shift your approach, I hope you’ll see W-land differently.

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8 Alissa April 2, 2009 at 12:09 AM

Hi Cris,

Thanks for taking the time to reply. I’ve been thinking about Wirtland since I read this post, actually.
I visualize the internet a lot like this. The topography is constantly changing, (the map is pre-twitter! ancient!) but you get the idea. Internet culture is like healthy mold; it can form around anything from world politics to Potter slash. I have no doubt that people will continue to communicate and perhaps even do business through Wirtland. Wirtland may one day grow from a tiny speck off the isle of memes to a formidable bulk.

I’m genuinely interested in the idea of global citizenship; of activism beyond your own backyard. But Wirtland doesn’t seem to be about that, or to have any cohesive political purpose, for that matter. The language you use to describe the site is utopian. But Wirtland doesn’t look like it’s trying to be a utopia. It looks to me like someone came up with a business model for an online club, diligently imitated the trappings of modern countries (Ari listed them above: national newspaper, currency, flag, etc,) and then unironically invited the disaffected to come in and express themselves. But the whole insistence upon this being real and not virtual is where it gets really absurd. Are Wirtlandiers going to try to claim the privileges of nationhood by trying to join the security council or be granted ambassadorships? Can I create my own government on myspace? What makes any of this legitimate?

“But the value of Witland’s concept is not in its current set of ready offers, but in the possibility to express members’ own ideas and ambitions.”

Doesn’t that blank slate already exist in the entire internet?

“We see Wirtland as an ever-growing framework of opportunities for people to do what they want, or to become whoever they want.”

I will have to check back when people are using Wirtland in more interesting ways. For now, I’ll be busy being American, and trying to make that mean something good.

9 Cris April 1, 2009 at 5:58 PM Twitter: @wirtland

Just a correction: there are over 600 witizens – not 300. Still a baby country, but babies grow fast :-)

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